Commons:Deletion requests/File:An F-35 Lightning II completes a flyover of USS Zumwalt (DDG 1000). (29774535153).jpg

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File:An F-35 Lightning II completes a flyover of USS Zumwalt (DDG 1000). (29774535153).jpg

Unfortunately, this is another image by Andy Wolfe, for which the copyright holder is Lockheed Martin (it's in the EXIF). A damn shame because Lockheed are adamant about licensing and this is an awesome photo DAAyanz (talk) 02:40, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

 Keep per DVIDS the image is attributed to "U.S. Navy photo by Andy Wolfe/Released" and "This work, Navy's Next Gen F-35 Stealth Strike Fighter Flies Over Next Gen Stealth Guided-Missile Destroyer, USS Zumwalt (DDG 1000) [Image 1 of 2], by Sylvia Pierson, identified by DVIDS, is free of known copyright restrictions under U.S. copyright law." Elisfkc (talk) 02:43, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

The photo is attributed, by DVIDS, to both "Andy Wolfe" and "Sylvia Pierson", and the VISION Id seems to track (though with only one other image) to Andy Wolfe. The obvious mistake at DVIDS, in the case of this particular image, seems to create significant doubt. There are other images from Andy Wolfe on Commons (mostly, to be fair, uploaded by me)... we need to clarify their status with some direct contact, I think. Revent^talk 04:47, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Note: Andy Wolfe [1] is a Lockheed Martin employee, working for them on a US Navy contract... there are probably some contractual details involved with these images. Revent^talk 04:51, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Contacting Lockheed Martin, through its Code One Magazine Editor's email, and the U.S. Navy Office of Information (OI-2) to see what the answer is. The email text is, or close to:

Dear Mr. Rhodes [Editor of Code One Magazine],
My name is E********* and I am a contributor on Wikimedia Commons. A question has come up on some of the images one of your photographers, Andy Wolfe, has taken. We are wondering if images, such as "Navy's Next Gen F-35 Stealth Strike Fighter Flies Over Next Gen Stealth Guided-Missile Destroyer, USS Zumwalt (DDG 1000)"/161017-N-VT045-001, that are taken for and published by the United States Navy, are in the public domain or not. The question arises because, according to the image's EXIF data, the copyright holder is Lockheed Martin. However, according to the caption, the image has been released into the public domain by the US Navy. We are wondering which one is correct.
Thanks,
E*******

Elisfkc (talk) 15:19, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

The Navy responded in thirty minutes, saying the following (I did the bolding):

Dear Mr. ****** --
It's a pleasure to be of assistance. All F-35 Lightning II photography and videography taken by contract photographers (Lockheed Martin, KBRwyle, etc.) in support of F-35 Lightning II flight test are official DoD imagery and in the public domain.
Thanks for the opportunity to answer your question. If I may continue to be of assistance in this regard or any other — please don't hesitate to let me know.
VR,
Sylvia
Sylvia Pierson

I am forwarding the email exchange to OTRS (ticket number: 2016101910017989), so as to provide proof that this occurred/documentation, but there's our answer. Elisfkc (talk) 17:27, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

 Comment The forwarded email (and other online references) confirm that Sylvia Pierson is the Public Affairs Officer for the F-35 test program. The forwarded email appears to have been sent from an official email address, as well, associated with the JSF program. Revent^talk 20:59, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

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Kept: as per discussion. P 1 9 9  ✉ 15:41, 2 November 2016 (UTC)