Commons:Deletion requests/File:Roza Shanina's diary.jpg
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Author: w:Roza Shanina. Russia's law is 70pma + wartime extensions, thus 74pm, thus unfree until 2019. Also, as the diary wasn't published until 1965, if Russia's law is like the EU, in that posthumous publications retain copyright for 70 years pd, then this is unfree in Russia until 2036 and in the US until 2061. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:38, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
- Keep The license's text is about the URAA date. At that time Russia had 50 years pma. From what I know Template:PD-1996 is still used and has not been scrapped. Brandmeister (talk) 02:01, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
- Except that we're not working with US copyrights, we're working with Russian copyrights. Commons policy is quite clear is must be PD in both the home country and the US. And even if we were talking about US copyrights, it only would have expired in the US if a) there were no wartime extensions in 1996 (which I think there were), and b) Russia was 50pma and not 50pd for posthumous works, which seems unlikely. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:12, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, as such PD-1996 per Commons:Copyright tags#Non-U.S. works. Brandmeister (talk) 15:12, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
- PD-1996 did'n applied, Roza Shanina "work" in World War II, so 50+4 years from 1944 = 1998 year. (Article 43 p.6 from 1993 law) --Sasha Krotov (talk) 11:58, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, as such PD-1996 per Commons:Copyright tags#Non-U.S. works. Brandmeister (talk) 15:12, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
- Except that we're not working with US copyrights, we're working with Russian copyrights. Commons policy is quite clear is must be PD in both the home country and the US. And even if we were talking about US copyrights, it only would have expired in the US if a) there were no wartime extensions in 1996 (which I think there were), and b) Russia was 50pma and not 50pd for posthumous works, which seems unlikely. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:12, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
- PD-text --Sasha Krotov (talk) 02:05, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
- Two issues with that: 1) are we sure that handwriting isn't copyrightable in Russia? And two, there is the text itself, which may be copyrightable. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:12, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
- I don't know if handwriting is copyrightable or not in Russia. Is the image quality of the text high enough to make the text readable? If you scan a copyrighted text, but make the image quality so bad that the text can't be read, I would imagine that there is no copyright issue. --Stefan4 (talk) 08:05, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
- Two issues with that: 1) are we sure that handwriting isn't copyrightable in Russia? And two, there is the text itself, which may be copyrightable. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:12, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
Kept: The text is not even readable. Nothing to copyright. Yann (talk) 07:42, 28 September 2012 (UTC)